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Paperback
Publisher: LITTLE, BROWN.; 1st edition (2000)
ISBN-10: 0316897752
ISBN-13: 978-0316897754
ASIN: B00817SL14
Package Dimensions:
8.4 x 5.9 x 0.8 inches
Shipping Weight: 12.6 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
Average Customer Review:
3.2 out of 5 stars
74 customer reviews
Amazon Best Sellers Rank:
#2,059,865 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
All you have to know about this book and how much the author knows about boxing, is this: Nick Tosches stated that Archie Moore threw his fight with Rocky Marciano. Moore, if he were to thow a fight could have found a bit easier way of doing so than than taking the pounding he did from the Rock. Just watch the last three rounds of the fight and you tell me if this was a thrown fight. Fair or not, this one seemingly innocuous passage, lost total credibility of the author for me. I paid for this book and now regret it. If you want good stuff on Liston from credible sources (though you may no agree with everything they write) read William Nack' SI piece, Nigel Collins' Boxing Babylon or The HBO documentary on Liston. Tosches may have done some incredible research here, but I don't view him as a reliable source.
I personally enjoyed the book. I have never read anything about Sonny Liston. I remember the fight that made him champion and the fight where he lost the title and the one with the phantom punch. Since reading the book. I checked out his fights via youtube andgained clarification about him. He was the best in the world in his prime. His life outside the ring was the thing that killed him withe public, The political Powers in the U.S.A.,and his backers Truman gibson,Frankie Carbo,Blinky Palermo who began to lose money on him by quashing scandals,getting him out of jail and etc. He was his biggest enemy and it was understandable when his backers gravitated to the up and comer Cassius Clay who provided a better image for boxing bought him three months before the championship fight in February 1964 and forced im to give up the title. He under better circumstances would have crushed Cassius clay but had lost his enthusiam by fight night. He was not the same fighter that was shown in the youtube clips,he did try to blind Cassius Clay when his handler put liniment on his gloves almost causing Clay to quit. Sonny Liston was seen in his entirety through this story by nick toshes
Nick Tosches is a wannabe. A fellow who tries too hard to be a tough-guy New York scribe, a hard-boiled Jimmy Breslin been-there badge-out type, who uses too many gratuitous obscenities and throwaway racist insults. A guy who writes in his own cover-blurb bio that he was "schooled in his father's bar...and his poetry readings are legend." Give me a break. He wastes a lot of over-research trying to set a dark mystical ambience for this Liston bio, so we get pages of pseudo-Joseph Conrad stuff about Dahomey slavery and Mississippi Choctaw, boll weevils and a 5th century bishop. Show-off meaningless riffs on Janus the god and Aristotle on slavery. Of course, this from a guy who thinks Aristotle is a "pillar of Judeo-Christian thought". Who gives us three pages on the history of slavery as he contemplates Liston's condition like he would his own navel. Yawn. And then a bunch of hard-guy talk about God's "white a**" and racist nonsense from an oh-too-black white guy, despite his comment that Liston was remarkably free of racial prejudice.Finally, about fifty pages in, we get to Liston and his boxing career. If you've made it this far, you can make it to the end. Tosches' research has yielded infinitely more about dozens of long-forgotten hoods than about Liston himself, what he thinks, what he says. The fights are barely mentioned at all. But just when Liston's life gets interesting, Tosches lapses into another unreadable passage about wind and blood and incomprehensible tough-guy jargon that must pass for profundity at Toshche's `legendary' poetry readings. He twice mentions, apropos of absolutely nothing, that Joe Kennedy earned dirty money, calling JFK "the brat offspring of a criminal fortune". Wha? Why is that here? It doesn't even rhyme with the line before it.He has lots of unsupported conspiracy theories. "America did not want Sonny as her champion", the Black Muslims "got to Sonny", this after earnestly explaining that "Islam was a religion of slavery" (p.217). Finally, with no evidence except his own attitude, he opines that "to accept the premise that Sonny was murdered is, by necessity, to accept the involvement and the malfeasance of cops in that murder." Um, ok, Nick.Strangely enough, the book is not an utter failure. Sonny Liston as a character is so outsized and compelling that he manages to seize the reader's interest in spite of Tosches' very best efforts to reduce the story to nonsense. It's hardly recommended, but if you find yourself on a deserted island with it, and you tear out the first fifty and last ten pages, well, the rest of the book would be passable with some judicious editing.
Well written. A very interesting historical and psychological approach.
Tosches, regardless of whether or not it was accurate, paints quite a picture with his work. One of his theses is that Sonny Liston was always the sharecropper's kid, even as a successful boxer. That's why, in Tosches' view, Sonny wouldn't have had difficulty doing what he was told from "the man."Maybe, maybe not. In any event Mr. Tosches covers the events of Sonny Liston's life. This book has no light spots, really. It's all medium gray to black. Maybe it's this perceived lack of contrast that irritates some readers. Maybe that's the way Sonny Liston's life really was.The Liston that Tosches leaves us with isn't particularly likeable, but somehow you end up feeling something for the man. In the end, I get the impression from Mr. Tosches that he's telling us that Sonny was our creation, that we made him. To that degree, perhaps we deserved some of the unpleasantness that came from the sad boxer with the massive hands and the pile-driving punch. And, maybe, to that degree Sonny was a victim.I'd give the book a 3 for substance and a 5 for style. Guess I'll settle for a 4. And "settling" is pretty much what Liston's life was about.
Very pleased
Sonny was a "bad man".
This was an excellent bio by a fine writer. At times I thought he swayed from the subject of Mr. Liston and lost his clear and consice voice, but these instances were relitvely rare. I reccommend this anyone who enjoys bios and excellent writing.
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